Will Obama Pay for 'Bitter' Flap? - TIME

News Type: Opinion — Seeded on Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:33 PM EDT

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I wonder who is the Elitist? The won who lived in the Governor's mansion
and the WhiteHouse, toured 80 countries to dine and dance with Elites of
those countries, whom she gave advice of her east wing experience she
gained in the whiteHouse. I do not think Obama should pay either for the Bitter and Elite flap, nor should the people of Pennsylvania do that.

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greenpagan

They're all elitist. Obama is probably the least elitist. More importantly it is better to elect a Peoples Congress--an overwhelmingly Democratic (include a very few RINO types like Olympia Snowe and independent progressives like Bernie Sanders) House and Senate that can carry on Rule By Legislature, push a progressive agenda, override vetoes, etc.

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#1 - Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:53 PM EDT

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Catch22

Up to this point its only "elitist" pundits that are claiming that his views are elitist in the first place.

NEWSFLASH: Its not elitist in the least to see the fact that there are some very bitter people out there. Its not particularly debateable. Sure you can choose to interpret his comments and words in unflattering ways if you want to.

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3 votes

#1.1 - Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:53 PM EDT

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Mike Rupert

Mr. Obama's comments have been misread. He didn't mean them in a disparaging way. He meant people clinged to what they felt most comfortable with - and these are good things. But like both the right and the left often do, they jump before they think; and now, inevitably, McCain being the politician he is, is taking full of advantage of this; as he should do if he wants to win - which he won't :)

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#1.2 - Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:04 PM EDT

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Nathaniel Smith

Obama's life is evidence that he is no elitist! Hillary is bitter since she is on the verge of losing a shot for Bill's third term in the white house! Mc Cain campaign is worried that Bush third term is also threatened.

All that Obama has implied is that the system has not worked effectively for small town America. His comments are a threat to corporate America,consultants and lobbyists who rake in $multimillion by opening avenues for the shipping out American jobs;technology. Barack is saying that it is time for increased benefits to small town America. Putting America back to work for the benefit of the middle will remove these lucrative perks.

Yes he can pay and his chances of victory reduced if the small town America allows the media and the elitists to distort the message.

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#2 - Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:15 PM EDT

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pdw174

I live in Pennsylvania, am pretty much among the folks he was referring to (Steelton, where he spoke on Saturday, and Messiah College where "The Compassion Forum" was held, are very nearby); I assure you "bitter" ain't the half of it. Personally, I think he hit it exactly right for some people. Religion, the Second Amendment, white America really can be things people cling to. It's not unlike cherishing the past, because one's memory tends to make "back then" lots better than today. My today bites the big one. I'm working a fulltime job and several parttime jobs just to keep up. Many of you know the litany I could recite on insurance, gas, food, utilities, taxes, and the rest of it. Yes, I'm bitter. I don't cling to religion or my gun, but I do hold antipathy for the elite...especially when she tries to belittle Obama for speaking the truth. Of course she doesn't know squat. Frankly, I had hopes for Mrs. Clinton, but I'm finally convinced that she's as out of touch as the rest of them. Bitter? Oh, yeah.

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#3 - Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:41 PM EDT

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Catch22

I think he hit it exactly right for some people.

I have no doubt he did, and since he was only talking about some people, it takes a level of political gymnastics to construe this as some how condescending.

What is truly elitist and consdesending is the assumption that people cannot handle such statements for what they are.

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#3.1 - Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT

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Blitzen

But if Clinton, and McCain for that matter, are going to use these comments to cast Obama as an arrogant elitist, they better be prepared to deal with the blowback. As Jamal Simmons, a Democratic consultant and Obama supporter, put it in an email exchange with TIME, "Hillary Clinton calls Barack Obama elitist? Really? Hillary Clinton was a corporate lawyer who sat on the Wal-Mart board before becoming First Lady and is now worth over $100 million. Barack Obama is the child of a single mother raised in part by his grandparents who went to school on a scholarship and was a community organizer making $12,000 a year before becoming a law professor, lawyer and state senator. Five years ago he was still paying off student loans. It's a bogus charge."

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#4 - Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:10 PM EDT

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